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dominique wolton?
----- Message d'origine ----- De : Geert Lovink À
: Envoyé : dimanche 22 août 1999 19:32 Objet : dominique wolton?
> hi, > > just a question, mainly to nettime subscribers in france.
there was an > article in le monde diplomatique, by a certain dominique
wolton. patrice > gave me a xerox copy. i read it and now wonder if
anyone has seen, heard > or read anything from him. he is the director
of the laboratory for > communication and politics at CNRS, and author
of a book called Internet > et apres? Une theorie crtique des nouveaux
medias, flammarion, paris, > 1999. > > http://www.liberation.com/multi/actu/semaine990412/art990415b.html
> > there is an interview with him in liberation, about the question
of > Internet being media, yes or no. he thinks its not. "no freedom
with > regulation." sounds like a true french civil servant, rather
official. > any idea? > > ciao, geert
Subject: 3615wolton
you know geert, wolton tries to make the french intellectual in mimicing
the head of the one who would know the number of moles of your sexual
partner, with the secret hope he will provoques in your head the gnawing
question 'how the fuck he can know that !'. bah. but just a thing about
internet that would be not a media, a media which would be first 'a
logic of offer to help', and 'not just a technic'.
minitel ? remember something ?
just an early eighty french typical paradigmatic produce of the 'french
civil servant' you speak about. : free small boxes for train timetable,
phone directory and oneline chat, quite wonderfull at the beginning,
1500bps, cheap to produce in line, cause quite enough for exchange all
what you want in online text. yes and perfectly democratic : a 'free'
technology straightaway adopt by increasly unemployed persons and the
lower classes in this time for killing time. but absolutely not as internet,
as the 'french servants' knows to take in the people.
cause of course the cost on line was. 1 buck for 4 minutes ! and so
much for the lumpen proletariat addict that most of the mothers gave
back their 'free' minitel to 'France telecom' (our national french phone
trust) cause their son and their daughter and their husband use it for
chatting and for what ? sex of course, cause what could be the reasonable
ROI of surch a price ?
get it ?
the minitel cost could be upper than their welfair benefit. electronic
sexual disturbance exists here for near 20 years and the number of this
glitter beast is not 666 but 3615 (and after, all what you want as filthy
words, it have to work or phone for putting in for France telecom)
Xrating ? remember something ?
just a tax that if it had been applied on all movies it would make
of a spielberg, if he would be to call for an encore, just the pharaonic
pornocrate.
And CB in France ? police reduce their power of emission so much that
it could only use for 'allo allo i drive at 180km/h are there cops at
the corner ?' and if it is replies 'yes '. they were at the corner.
so when wolton speak about 'media which would be first 'a logic of
offer to help', and 'not just a technic'.. he just doesn't bite the
hand that feed him : the french state.
And permit i add a thing about these wolton and virilio and so one
. they are perfect loudspeaker of this official french wit 'cause look
what they do' so for saving moral only the french state could take the
procurer role : this question is solemn cause show the perfect double
bind where french left is now quite at ease between 'state dirigism'
and 'free market' politic : both could make chic & money.
I have not a so special taste for our national junky malraux but i
bet what he could said if one let make built his 'macu' (sixty's 'house
of culture' in each town for 'making culture near the people') for selling
the beer in the refreshment stall as expensive in gugenheim's...
and look more ! more : in France near1900 the bars were 10x more than
now (yes 10 ! for an half population) why ? do you imagine stony broke
picasso could pass his time in drinking and speaking and exchanging
so bad ideas with others daubers and writers and drunkards for so much
money ?
do you know how it cost to tell to a bunch of buds now in paris, as
all over the west world 'have a drink here !' ?
but already french state could inspire from england in saying bar=
alcolism & lost of paid for familly &politic disturbance chats,
do you know what french workers were shouting out in 1936 ? 'WINE!'
and i bet it is said in vatican god put gold in the ground of california
for america didn't become the frist commie country as marx said..hell
i am very long, so what could you tell to wolton for getting shorty
geert ? hum my idea is just tell him you has knew howmany moles has
his sexual partner but you had quickly forgotten, if he is froggy, he
would understand all above,
english is so long winded you know..
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